Brother (and Sister), Can You Spare A Seed?
Posted on Nov 20th, 2007
by
Earon
Fellow Zaadzsters, I'm not an admin or team member. I've just been on Zaadz since July, but I'd really like to see how the positive seed-sharing system that Jake crafted will work. If you haven't yet given away any of your seeds, I'm going to ask you to part with one of them. Whether you want to participate in the seed-sharing system or not, you can probably afford to give away one of your precious little seeds. Just look at your friend list, or at a posting (check "like it") or profile ("big love" means giving three seeds, so you might want to start slowly) and plant one of those sweet, life-affirming seeds.
Try it. Know that it wasn't solicited, and that the recipient will never know who gave them the seed. Like other random acts of kindness, it is simple and complete. And it doesn't cost you anything. And it may just help you feel just a little bit better, just a little more connected, just a little bit silly, just a little altruistic. As a virtual community, we are word-based. We can leave messages and we can comment, but we can't share a glance of recognition or a touch on the shoulder or a simple nod of acknowledgment. Now, we can expand into Jake's metaphorical vision of spreading seeds and watching the Zaadz community flourish. Try it, and let me know how it goes.
Peace,
Earon
Try it. Know that it wasn't solicited, and that the recipient will never know who gave them the seed. Like other random acts of kindness, it is simple and complete. And it doesn't cost you anything. And it may just help you feel just a little bit better, just a little more connected, just a little bit silly, just a little altruistic. As a virtual community, we are word-based. We can leave messages and we can comment, but we can't share a glance of recognition or a touch on the shoulder or a simple nod of acknowledgment. Now, we can expand into Jake's metaphorical vision of spreading seeds and watching the Zaadz community flourish. Try it, and let me know how it goes.
Peace,
Earon
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“And it doesn't cost you anything.”
everything comes with a price. There's the cost of my time, and my integrity, and the integrity of the person I'm grading by endowing them with one of my 'seeds'
there's a huge personal cost when you buy into groupthink and perceive nothing wrong with enforcing conformity and obedience, no matter what flowery language you use to disguise it. And perhaps it pays off for those who like it, find it fun and amusing. I see nothing fun in marginalizing those who disagree with the majority. But I am having loads of fun discussing this matter!! So thanks Zaadz team, for offering me the chance to have such a fun and lively non-debate. Any student of logic should be rolling on the floor, it's so damn funny what passes for argument these days.
Dear ((Earon))
I loved what you wrote, So I clicked on the “Like it” thing (new, I think. never noticed it until today?) because—what you wrote was an appeal to peace and harmony. Clicking “Like it” is an anonymous act of random kindness, an acknowledgement that you appreciate what the person said. I have clicked on “Like it” on several blog entries today , reading friends- of friends =of friends blogs. They don't know me, I don't know them .
What you wrote is very sensible and appealing. You are appealing to the BEST in Us, to that kind, compassionate, understanding , loving part of us, to get back in touch with it, and to pass that spirit on to someone else when you connect with something they contributed.
The seed giving is a private act.
I hope lots of people read your ”Can you Spare a Seed”
Namaste, (the good in me see the goodl in you/I bow to honour the divine within you)
mimi
PS - see Asian Woman's blog piece today about “Namaste”
Earon,
Thank you for this. I like the idea of my seeds being a touch on the shoulder or a nod of acknowledgement. We may not see that we received these yet I think we will somehow feel the gentle “hug”.
Love and persimmon seeds,
Sprite
Friendstacy, thanks for being a friend. The last thing I would want is for you to do anything that would compromise your integrity. You are great the way you are. My perspective, and I admit to not having a lot of experience with such systems, is that we were already being “judged” and “rated” before the seed system, and there were elements of “popularity contest” in place. With the seed system, I think we have an opportunity to actually have more mindful input, to the extent that people are comfortable with it, and use the seeds with compassion and wisdom - and the Zaadz team maintains vigilance to respond to any problems quickly.
As a social experiment, I would encourage people to give it a try, to see where it goes. But I absolutely respect any individual's right to ignore the seeds entirely. Your voice won't disappear, Friendstacy, because you have important things to say, and you say them well, and your reputation is tops in my book.
And, mimi thanks for your kindness.
buddingspritelet, thanks for persimmon
Peace,
Earon
Dear Earon,
giving anonymous kudos to people is a double-edged pleasure once you know that by clicking on someone's profile to bestow a seed, you will also leave a trace of having visited that page and seen all the ads on the right hand side. So, on the one hand, you will have helped to create somebody's “reputation” - a somewhat dubious endeavor, if you think about it more. On the other hand, you have helped zaadz/Gaiam to collect data about greatly increased traffic due to all the added page hits brought about by the seed system - thus boosting their advertising rates - which is a perfectly legitimate endeavor as long as participants are told upfront that this is what using the seed system accomplishes for the business of zaadz.
That we had to fight through an incredible amount of nebulous spin to get to this truth is what has left a bad taste in my mouth. But now that I know that I can help zaadz to make more money by using the seeds, I am willing to be generous, simply because it's in my nature to be.
Whadda ya think, dear “users” ?
m
Dear Mascha. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. I'm sure that the seed system could help document “hits” that could boost advertising rates, and I agree with you that, in and of itself, isn't a priority for me, nor a problem. However, another impact of sharing seeds could be that we get to know each other - that we are encouraged to network with each other - and that Zaadz becomes more open and less clique-ish, with a more full exchange of ideas and perspectives. More people will visit your blog and that will keep Zaadz from being swallowed by any one given perspective, guru or group. Hopefully, more hidden treasures will surface in Zaadz and more voices will be heard.
I believe that sending someone an anonymous seed incorporates a profound bit of human wisdom related to change. It is the basis of team-building practices on many levels. The wisdom is that it is easier for people to act their way to a new way of thinking - than it is to think our way to a new way of acting. Basically, when we are presented with an opportunity to manifest friendship and compassion, we are more likely to take advantage of it - compared to just thinking and talking about it. And there's more than enough thinking and talking in this world. When we are able to do things that manifest good will and friendship, this helps us jumpstart our feelings of connection and friendship. It doesn't entirely change us, but it helps us to be open to others.
Getting used to giving little anonymous gifts to other people is a way to help us start to experience the feeling of being connected - and the process can change us - or at least I think it's worth a try. As I already said, there's plent of talk about “being the change.” I'd like to help people feel what it is like to be the change - rather than just talking about it.
My Dad, who is 82 years old, is delighted when my brothers and I visit each other or stay in touch with each other. And he loves to have us all gather with him for a meal. This may be simply because it makes him feel important and powerful. But I may also choose to see it as a manifestation of caring and connection. It all depends upon our perspective, and no one perspective is correct all the time. If my Dad chooses to have us all meet for breakfast at 6:30 am, or expects me to eat bacon and sausage, that just won't work for me. But he has learned to be patient and arrange things that work fairly well for everyone.
I'm hoping that is what will happen with Zaadz. We have enough common interests and values to find win-win situations. I have little interest in the Zaadz advertisers and don't generally look at the ads, so I'm glad that I don't need to buy stuff in order to have a voice here. True, my one voice isn't very loud, but if seed-sharing helps it become more noticed, then it will probably be because someone expended the effort to reach out beyond their regular network of teachers and friends - and happened to find something positive in it.
Peace,
Earon
Eh, you make a very good case for your perspective. All three thumbs up for you, then. Visualize that and have a field day seeding the place.
:-)
Hi Earon,
I see a lot of love, openness and kindness in your sharing. it's really beautiful to read your post.
Re. the seeds itself, i don't think about this consciously, and don't think of donating them consciously either.
At times i'm drawn to a post, and on some occasions, i choose to click 'i liked it'. This works for me. At the same time, i also liked your random acts of kindness thought.
Thanks for everything, and hope you have a great day!
Peace.
This has inspired me to start something at work, random anonymous acts of love seeds, though it might be a rose, or chocolate kiss or something. How fun, to be hit with the love hug :) Hmmm, but to make sure everyone gets at one and maybe with a note saying what I appreciate about them!
Sprite
Hi Earon,
I appreciate your equanimity in responding to those who find the seed program so distasteful. I do feel that many have done an outstanding job of perpetuating that bad, awful, negative taste that lingers on and on and just keeps being re-affirmed, kind of a mantra of sorts. Rebellious independence and non-conformism seems to be all the craze these days - but it's still a creed of conformism nonetheless. But it might be time to consider a more open-minded approach to things. Maybe harmony has a higher value than dissension?
I believe that Jake had good intentions with this system and maintains and open-minded attitude towards its outworking.
Thanks for bringing your spaciousness of being to this topic.
Hanuman
Wow buddingspritelet, that's inspiring in itself. Do let us know how it goes…maybe the 'disease' will spread!!
peace!
Earon, I love your take on this. Your intention is so positive and loving and for me that is what is most important when giving seeds. I have been giving them anonymously for some time now, the seeds are sent with love and gratitude and need no response from the recipients, so what harm is there? May you continue to champion harmony.
Love from Zephyr.
Hunh… I wonder what's wrong with rebellious independence and non-conformism? And why diss dissension? I really could care less about the seed thing, one way or another, but this kind of talk seems to bear out what the seed critics are saying. And I, for one, tend to stand on their side.
Hey, KE, as a psyco-sociologist, I find this whole controversy, a study of group dynamics in cyberspace, and absolutely fascinating.
Earon, thank you for giving us a place to share our thoughts!
just smiling at it all here!
i do love zaadz–and all of you
happy thanksgiving.
mary
I'm really glad you all stopped by. Hanuman, I think you are right on target. I also love “rebellious independence and nonconformism”, as does kaleidoscope eyes. It is just so American! And so human. They are part of each and every one of us. It is just that I love peace and sustainable community building even more, at this point in my life.
I also believe that Friendstacy, kaleidoscope eyes and Mascha have very positive intentions. The situation, as I see it, is that:
1. The potential issues really have nothing to do with sharing seeds, but rather reputation scores.
2. By focusing on criticizing the “seed system,” dissenters have missed the opportunity to have a positive impact and have ended up ranting about a non-problem instead of engaging a productive debate.
3. Siona and Jake are well versed with these issues and generally agree with you, and
4. They were not prepared for the reaction that occurred, and needed a few hours to regroup, but were always happy to talk with people who weren't calling them names.
So, there we are. Kaleidoscope Eyes is quite perceptive in knowing that seeds aren't the problem, but that there is something else going on. However, it seemed like the only viable options are to give in - or to support those attacking the seed system. I see a third option - to accept the seed system and start talking with Team members about how “reputation scores” can be created without affecting the integrity of the Zaadz community.
Mimi, Zephyr, buddingspritelet, Koolk and Hanuman, I feel you heart energy, your yearning for healthy community and your faith in fellow zaadsters. I know that this is all going to work out very well! I think that Siona and the team are bright, compassionate and committed to a healthy and sustainable Zaadz community. Change can be confusing at times, but the Zaadz Team is up to the task.
So, I'll find a place for Mascha's third thumb and join you in “seeding the place” with compassion, harmony and hopefulness.
Peace,
Earon